EGO Search on Rozalla

I am doing an EGO search on singer, Rozalla Miller's artist name, Rozalla, a.k.a The Queen of Rave. We talk about her love for music, and her long career as a singer. Jonathan of @RozallaMusicFan on Twitter, is sharing his story on how he got aboard as a team member. I repeatedly say how much I appreciated Jonathan’s nice outreach activity on Twitter, and we discuss how artists could create a strong bond to theirs fans. You will learn how the music industry has evolved during the years, and how the latest song, Magnificent, came about.

UPDATE OCTOBER 25, 2020: Here is transcript, done by Temi.

Martin Lindeskog (00:05): [inaudible] Welcome to EGO NetCast. I am Martin Lindeskog. Hi, Rozalla and Jonathan.

Rozalla (00:15): Hi Martin. How are you?

Martin Lindeskog (00:18): I'm fine. And yourself. I'm very well, thank you. Yeah. Great. And you're not on I'm very well. Yes. Right. So what are you thinking about your, both of you, your magnificent? So what, what do you think about

Rozalla (00:35): I'm I'm? Uh, obviously, you know, we live in through lockdown, uh, so I guess that's at the forefront of people's minds and how our lives have been changed by all this, uh, unprecedented, um, unprecedented world that we live in through, but, you know, it is what it is and we've taken one day at a time. Um, and in the midst of all that, my, myself and my record label, we decided to release a magnificent two weeks ago now. And, and I am at home, you know, promoting it and been radio interviews, um, video radio interviews as well. And, and yeah, it's keeping me busy.

Martin Lindeskog (01:17): Right. And you, you're not on, you reached out to me through a direct message on Twitter, off have added that on my Apple music list there. And you sent me a message and asked if I wanted to talk to a reseller, that's an honor to be able to do that. So thanks to reach out and use social media in a great way, because that's what I am. I am a new media adviser. So I, it's funny how this could work for you.

Jonathan (01:46): Yeah. I'm not very technical myself really. Um,

Martin Lindeskog (01:50): I'm not either, but I use,

Rozalla (01:54): I don't think I am too.

Jonathan (01:57): My other half works in, in it. My, my, my day job is working at the hospital in rheumatology as a clerical officer. Um, so obviously things at the moment, as you can understand a very tense, um, quite stressful, um, aside from the people on the frontline, you've got all the people behind the scenes as well, who are really striving to make ends meet and make sure people get the correct treatment and get seen as an, when they should be. Um, so, um, yeah, then obviously my, um, my, my other hobbies and interests aside from acting are promoting, um, Rozalla, uh, who I met five years ago on a music video called, um, if you say it again, um, yeah, the hotel, um, bell boy, um, carrying her luggage to the hotel room behind the scenes, um, we kind of just hit it off, straight away, um, and, um, remained in contact.

Jonathan (03:01): And then we've done a few of the little bits since then. Um, and yeah, just set up the, the fan pages and started promoting the music of my own accord. And when the previous single turn on the light, um, was starting to, uh, take off promotion-wise I started plugging it to just off my own accord to random stations. And I think probably about 500 stations, um, globally, um, played the track, um, which was overwhelming. And then from there, they, the label, um, suggested that I jump on board and start helping out promoting other artists as well. And then there was Rozalla, uh, with the new stuff. So yeah,

Rozalla (03:52): Jonathan is now part of the energized family because Gary thought, you know, he did such an excellent job on promoting turn on the light and he's like, he has to be on board. So yeah, he's one of us now he's one of the,

Martin Lindeskog (04:08): Yeah. [inaudible] or making it happen in there, like the Duracell. Yeah. That's great. So how long have you had this record label? Rozalla and I like the symbol, the atoms symbol there and the individual.

Rozalla (04:24): Yeah. I've uh, well, I I've been with energize, I would say maybe two years now. Um, you know, it's still new or maybe just about two years or a little over two years, I'd say. Yeah. Yeah.

Martin Lindeskog (04:37): What would you call that like an indie label then, like back in the day you have a small labels, like Cherry records and other things like that.

Rozalla (04:44): Probably most likely because, you know, Gary, uh, has his daytime job and him and his partner, Dave have been running energized, uh, coming onto 25 years, you know, and they'd do it themselves, or do they have an office at their house where they did from, and it's been, you know, just a small label and they've got quite a few artists on and it's been successful. It's it's really working well. And I'm just so proud to be a part of it.

Martin Lindeskog (05:09): It's been fun when it's like going full circle. I remember back in the day when I was visiting London in the early days when, like the, what was it like a older record shop out very in the suburbs somewhere. And I remember some independent records that I wanted to get, like synth and electronic music, and then you had eFanzines and this mail order, and it's still that now, but now we could use technology. I'm a tools I'm internet. And I think you are doing it in a splendid way. You're both professional and personal because I can see the challenge of so-called big artists that they have the whole staff, but maybe they are not really connected with the listeners that we're fans for the buyers. It could be, maybe it'd be Tinder. Yeah,

Rozalla (06:02): Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So this way we are connected with our fans, you know, um, one of the things I enjoy about, for instance, by social media, I can be in touch with my fans straight away there. And then, you know, on, on Instagram we have chats. We can even send each other voice notes on Instagram, even on Twitter or Facebook. And it's been great so far, so good.

Martin Lindeskog (06:27): Yeah. And you have done like Facebook live sessions also as well that you were, was it like out in the garden or in, in, uh, some outdoor place when you were singing along?

Rozalla (06:38): Yeah, it was, it was actually outside my back garden and it was for, um, a festival called let's rock. I had about seven or eight dates to do with them. And they have anywhere between 10 to 25,000 people. And of course, unfortunately with the COVID-19, they've had to postpone some of the dates to 2021. Um, and they thought, you know, uh, because one of the organizers his child sadly passed away and it was, yeah. And it was for a charity called child bereavement. And during this COVID 19, this child bereavement charity lost a million pounds. So they, they wanted to raise money to put towards that. And so they asked all the artists that were performing and, or going to perform on the Let's rock festivals this year to do a song one or two or three songs. And they, they asked me and I thought, why not?

Rozalla (07:32): You know, but it's not something I really wanted to do. Not only for let's rock, just in general, I've been getting asked to perform one of my songs. And my only reason being is I don't have the right sound system at home, you know, it could come out sounding really awful. And I wasn't sure about that. And I've been refusing to do everybody's free because I don't think the lyrics, uh, you know, the right type of lyrics for what we're currently living through. I think the lyrics are perfect for when the lockdown, so I, it, it just didn't sit well with me. So I, you know, and fortunately most of the promoters I knew ever asked me just completely understood. So we thought, how about faith in the power of love? Because faith and love, uh, two strong words, you know, you, despite what ever we're going through, you got to have faith and you've got to love and just keep moving forward.

Rozalla (08:22): So we decided to do faith in the power of love. And, um, Darren short said, look, just form it in wherever you want to get your husband to full mate. Uh, put some earphones on. So only you can hear the music and then send me the video and send me the backing track. And then he did some things to it, then just lifted it and just made it sound so much better. And that's, that's what you saw on the Saturday, uh, for the electronic Charles bereavement charity. And they, they raised 130,000 pounds in a matter of four hours. And about the board, uh, we had about 2 million people that watched watch this event.

Martin Lindeskog (09:01): Hmm. Oh, that's impressive. And talking about festivals, I saw when I did the search, because we will have that as a segment because you have other big artists, you have that you have your first name as as your name. So, so to speak, it's Rozalla Miller in full, but the artist name is Rozalla. And then when we do, when I did a search for on Google, I get an impressive of 400,000 hits. And, and, uh, so that's, that's fascinating. And one of the hits was, uh, here an event, of course, it's depending on where you're searching from. So when I saw it from here from Sweden, one of the hits on the results there on the first page is Tickster, that's a ticket service provider. And they said they will have a festival about the nineties music in July in Gothenburg, but what's the status of that? Will you come to Gothenburg, Sweden in July?

Rozalla (10:01): Oh my goodness. Well, some, like I said, you know, Martin, um, quite a few of my dates have been postponed to 2021. There's still some dates in my diary and the promoters are waiting to see what the government will do before they postpone them. So honestly, whatever dates I have in July are still holding and they just still waiting to see what will happen. So that's, that's all I can say. I hope it will. I hope it will. I mean, I'm missing performing, I'm missing going out there and, you know, singing for my fans, but, you know, you gotta do the right thing and follow the right rules and regulations.

Martin Lindeskog (10:40): Yeah. And right here in, in Sweden, it's, I think it's maximum 50 people at attendance and you have to be like one meter or two meters between yeah, I don't know, but we'll see. And, um, what's happening. So, so when I did this search, I, uh, one of your videos was popping up. And, but what I did on this, my Apple music account also, I saw some of your videos as spot spotlight there. And I liked this video. It was like almost like impromptu at the end where, when you're the light going off and, and some of course nostalgic with, with everybody's free and fly by with me as well, because some of these, and we can joke, we will not talk about our age Rozalla back, back in the day, the MTV TV, and so on. When you saw this songs, maybe we don't, we didn't see it. All of them back in the day, it was later on. And then you, it's a resurface on the net. So we get these nostalgic memories and that's, uh, that's fascinating. I think my, my husband says

Rozalla (11:54): To me, you know, you're very lucky to be living in the times you live in, in with the internet and social media, because, you know, fans can go in and just type a name of whoever they want to see and it pops up, you know? Yeah. So that's a good thing.

Martin Lindeskog (12:08): And we knew how it was before, uh, internet. I don't know about you. You're not on, well, maybe, but you are, uh, I mean, you always born and working before we internet also, right.

Jonathan (12:26): As I say, I've never really, I've never really been one for, um, for modern technology. And since even when I was at school,

Jonathan (12:34): Um, I wasn't particularly

Jonathan (12:36): Great with computers or, or anything like that. And it was, it's only, probably in the past two years that I've had a phone where I can actually talk to people via, um, some form of video format of like Rozalla was quite impressed. Uh, last week that I'd finally got WhatsApp, I'm still shocked.

Rozalla (12:58): Honestly, I was like, I been telling him, get on WhatsApp, get on WhatsApp, you know, because, you know, if you don't just speak one-to-one and you just want to send a voice note or send videos, I mean, I love WhatsApp. And he took like five years.

Martin Lindeskog (13:13): I mean, I was pretty late, late in the game. Also, as you know, now it's owned by Facebook, so they have, they are independent, but the way we still have the support there. And you talked about your husband where, and that's also one result in a Wikipedia, of course they have a listing and also either internet, movie database, and I've seen that they retweeted about how many years it was one of your songs and on, so it's fascinating. And I didn't know that, that you had participate in acting in movies because one of the versions of your songs, it was this UK version. And then it was movie clips. And I wonder what kind of movies that, could you tell a bit about that with Pachino?

Rozalla (13:56): Oh my goodness. Oh, well, um, I love music was used on the, uh, Culito's way, which was the Al Pachino movie and Sean Penn. And at the time I was signed to Sony and, uh, you know, I got to working with jelly bean who, you know, from Madonna and they flew me down to New York to record. I love music, uh, which was for the soundtrack Culito's way. And, you know, I got to meet, uh, Al Pachino and I was asked to perform at the, um, the premiere in New York, which was just absolutely fascinating for me. Just wonderful, wonderful.

Martin Lindeskog (14:33): That's great. And that was the result I saw when I did the alternative search and DuckDuckGo that's for privacy. Then I saw this internet movie database and learned about that movies. I will watch that. And also, yeah, and then I last FM, that was like an old site also for music stations and so on. So then when I had a profile on you and some of the photos and tracks and so on, and also all, all music. And so that was the different between DuckDuckGo [inaudible] and Google. But coming back to that, could you tell a little bit more about your work, especially with when you song and also how you could promote this too, to reach out to the fans? And so on band camp is one source. I think I recently been added that to my, to my compilation, to the collection, and then you could see, uh, other fans and individuals that have bought records, digital or physical. And so I think that's pretty neat, uh, way of doing it. So please chime in here, Jonathan, and Rozalla, what's, what's your thinking about that?

Rozalla (15:48): Well, I mean, I'm, I'm going by what the energize have, uh, put out the single to get, I know, like for instance, you can listen to it on Spotify, it's available from band camp, as you mentioned earlier on Amazon, on iTunes. Uh, so it's available on, uh, quite a few good online retail retailers. What do you say, Jonathan?

Martin Lindeskog (16:11): I totally agree. 150% because you, as I said, reach out to me and then you sent me an email with links when the MP3 files, um, and for the record, it would be great to play some of the songs here, but as, as you know, this podcast will be for example, distributed through Spotify. And if they hear music, they could have an issue with that, even if I would have permission from you. So I will link to SoundCloud, to band camp, and also to my playlist and song. And I advise listeners to go out and buy the records in that format that you want. But that's the thing with music on a podcast. And I am for protecting the property rights of the artists. That's why I like Apple music, because I know that they are paying a good, good money to the artists there.

Martin Lindeskog (17:10): So, but yeah, so you could tell a little bit, you sent me, I think it was 10 different versions of the, your latest single, and I would joke about now it's, it's a bit hard to say, but it's a nice word. So "Mang, nice fish them". And in Swedish, you could say, you could say magnifikt, and now you would have some fun word here, because from Gothenburg, we have slang called fik is like in a coffee place. So it was a coffee place here in Gothenburg, called Magnifikt magnificent, magnificent. So, but it's a bit like a local humorous, it can be hard to get in and follow along, but even you send 10 different ones. And I tried to compare it with the extended play like EP, but we say, eh, and then the album, like five songs. So could you tell me about the songs that you send Jonathan and the songs that are, that you could buy? Because it was one song that I think it was a disco edit or something like that, but I couldn't see online, but I got it as an email. So please go through some of a version, here, and your thoughts about and how you have worked that because that's fascinating for me as a lay person.

Jonathan (18:27): Yeah. There's, uh, there's probably, as I say around about seven to 10 to 10 different mixes of the track, um, and, um, each one has its own like unique, um, like sound and that they all sort of like, um, will appeal to various different people, as we were saying earlier on, um, not everybody is into the same style of music. So one person may like the disco idea. Another person may like the, um, the new house edit or the club edit, et cetera. Um, so my particular favorite is the, um, the retro tech mix, um, um, which, um, there's a, a video on YouTube of that, which, um, good friends, um, created Ash Stanley. Yeah. And, uh, he's such a, a really, really nice guy. Um, and, um, yeah, uh, the, one of my other mix favorite mixes is the, um, is it the brother's in-house at, in house [inaudible] remix or something

Martin Lindeskog (19:50): I'm still yet to listen to it, I'm hearing good things about it. There's just some new mixes. Yeah. And I listened to all of them that both had, I got from you by email and on Apple music. And that could be thing a and now I interrupted you, Jonathan, you have different services and different things. And I think also the legal things about it, because for example, I've seen music that I can't play from where I'm located and then you could play it on other places in the world. So, and maybe Apple music, maybe not first on it every time, for example, that video that I haven't seen very yet, but I seen this on the spotlight. That was the latest one. So the video, and I liked to watch that also, and because they had the service before called like that you could connect directly to artists, but they don't, they don't have that anymore. But as I said, Spotify, I've been pretty great and great at that working on, on building lists and reaching out to the fans and so on. So, um, yeah, so it, it's great to see the, but how, how do you come about this song? Rozalla how, w how is the process when you're coming up with something like that?

Rozalla (21:08): Yeah. Well, Gary sent me a few demos of songs cause I've, I've got an album that'll be coming out. Um, maybe I'm not too sure. I don't really want to say, but on that album is the turn on the light, which did well last year and off the album, uh, we've just taken off magnificent. So I've been looking for songs and Gary has been looking for songs for me, and he's sent me quite a few songs and in that package was magnificent, uh, which was written by Charlie Mason and John Matthews. And I loved it. And I told Gary, I can hear the song. I can sing this and I can hear things happening. And usually also, when you given a song, you know, you sing it well, if you love it. And then the other important factor of it is mixes. So I think Matt Pop, did an amazing mix, and that's why we chose that one as the official mix.

Rozalla (21:58): And then of course the other mixes have also come back and I'm still listening to them. I love the, like Jonathan Jonathan said that the retro Trek tech mix, I love the brothers and house mix. I love, I just kept listening to those over and over again. So the other mixes I'm still yet to listen to, but, um, uh, Gary, you know, I trust his ears and his eyes and he normally sends me mixes and asks me, you know, what do you think of this? And, you know, I say, yes, I say no, but yeah. So that's how, uh, magnificent, uh, came about.

Martin Lindeskog (22:31): And it, it's funny, that's again, how the full circle is coming now will be technology. Because back in the day, again, when you went to a record store and bought this vinyl records, then often you had this special extended play and the mixes of popular artists. I remember that I talked to James Knight when I interviewed him, we talked about, for example, the group art of noise. And that was like an electronic synth, a bit avant-garde or special group, but they did often lots of mixes. Um, so that was fun, um, to, to do, of course, if you are a fan that could be also that you, your collection is growing and

Martin Lindeskog (23:16): Yeah. But yeah, you said it, but yeah, but right now, I mean, when you subscribe to Spotify or Apple music for like $10 or something like that per month, I mean, that could cause the regular vinyl could, I don't remember how much it was now, but I mean, one record could cost that and now you could play, um, all kind of music for a month. So it's, uh, but then of course we could debate how the sound quality, how is the feeling? Because I remember when I watched this last FM site, and then I saw some photos of you. I remember the booklet in the CD. Yeah. With your, you had this outfit was, it's almost like a, not a rocket or space, but it was this golden thing and with some pockets and other things like that, then you had another, some other things also, and when i saw that photo online, I re I got these memories from this booklet. So it was something with the booklet or the album cover back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, and, and what would you, what's your reflection of is now, uh, Rozalla 30 years as a, as a singer and an artist and an actor and an entrepreneur,

Rozalla (24:40): Um, all these things. Well, um, you know, things move on, life moves on the music industry has changed. Um, I still think it's, it's a tough industry, you know, but also in some ways with the internet and having the technology, we've had, you know, if you've got producers or young and upcoming musicians, they can buy their own little equipment and record themselves at home and put it out on YouTube and put it out on, you know, the internet themselves without the need of, of going through a record label. Um, and I think most big record labels or small ones, um, and maybe getting the artists that way, because these new upcoming artists have already plugged themselves online, you know, and then the job has been done for the record label. So then they want to know and sign you up and snap you up. But, you know, it's, it is what it is. And, uh, here we are.

Martin Lindeskog (25:31): And I mean, I want to focus on the positive things, but now when we're talking, I was thinking on the [inaudible] and, and his career And, and tragically what's happened with his life ending his life there. Uh, but I saw the documentary and how he started, and he put that on some bulletin board. And at first nobody was, uh, listened to it, liked it, but then something happened and then overnight, so that will be, I mean, it could be, as you said, a tough and it could be pretty rough for the artist and also lots of responsibility for the record labels. And then of course you have, the listeners would have opinions about, about the whole thing, but I I'm, I still see positive things about it for the future.

Rozalla (26:21): Absolutely. Absolutely. So do I, so do I,

Martin Lindeskog (26:25): And do you have one thing very, you said that before you love music, I love music and, uh, it's, it was nice to, and very, to the movie, so, yeah. And, and on Twitter, Jay Allen, Allen J his name breaking my heart. Yeah. He said that on Twitter that he looking forward to partying again. And when it was a movie clip from your music video there could you comment on that a bit?

Rozalla (26:54): Yes, Alan and I did it duet, uh, probably three years ago now. Um, and actually you just reminded me of I've been with energize longer than two years. So it's probably been three years because, uh, breaking my heart came out and energized. And that in fact was my first single that I did for energize, which was the duet with Alan. And I've never done it, do it with anyone ever. So it wasn't on a, because I think Alan is a very talented good-looking young man and I love his voice and that's the reason I agreed to do that song with him. It was released.

Martin Lindeskog (27:32): Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah.

Martin Lindeskog (27:38): Yeah. And I saw some video clips that you and Alan did, uh, at, uh, energized record some party or something like that. And that was in 2017. Yeah, that's right. As I say again, I mean, you never know, I mean, again, who the rights and who is coming from, so that's why I will include in the show notes. So official ones and link, and then of course, people are free to search for themselves and see what they find. But that's the thing, it's a jungle out there too, to find stuff. Yeah. So, when sometimes you have to fly away and, um, yeah, you said, Jonathan, your favorites on this new single song. Do you have any other favorites of Rozalla's huge collection here of songs? Do you know Rozalla how many songs you have done through the years?

Rozalla (28:38): No, I don't. I don't, I don't. I've never counted them. No.

Martin Lindeskog (28:44): Yeah. Could you, could you so-called again, focus on the positive things, but I mean, we'd all authors and others, if you have worked lots of it, it could be the, when they are finished and published when they are, it's a bit enough, so to speak, but is it any song that you said about this happening situation, but, uh, everybody's free and so on. Maybe that's not the right thing right now we should be free, but right now we are, I mean, things are happening and we could have had opinions about that, but is it any song that sticks still stick with you or some that have been your favorites over years, or is it that every new song is a new chapter, so to speak?

Rozalla (29:28): Yeah. Every new song is a new chapter. Every old song is, uh, a memory of, you know, what I did by having the opportunity of working with producers, with songwriters and meeting people. And the process for me is always one that is exciting. You know, I love, love working with new producers. I love working with songwriters. I've never heard of it. I love getting demo songs and listening to them and thinking, you know, how could I sing that with my kind of voice and stuff like that? So I, every song that I've recorded over the years has always has a special meaning for me, because it takes me back to where I recorded it, who I recorded it with, who wrote it, like one of the songs I'm thinking of. Uh, I did, uh, when I was signed to Sony, uh, for, uh, for an album called look no further, I did a song which was written for me by Diane Warren. And in my opinion, she's one of the world's greatest songwriters. Because if you listen to her extensive songwriting collection, she's written for artists that do completely hardcore rock songs to Celine Dion. And I had the opportunity of working with, and she wrote the title track look no further. So I, I got flown to Los Angeles and I worked with her, I got to meet her and her producers. And it was just a wonderful, wonderful experience. And she was a lovely lady.

Martin Lindeskog (30:58): That's great. Great to hear, to get some insights about what's going on in the music industry. So yeah. What's your, anything regarding your future plans?

Rozalla (31:14): Well, like, like I said, I've, I've got the album where magnificent has just been released from, uh, we've got quite a few songs that we've already finished doing. We had one more song left to record. So I guess that'll happen when lockdown is lifted and we able to, you know, circulate a bit more freely. Um, but they're currently all been remixed. I've got a few backup, I've got a few, couple of songs that have been mixed and sent back to me. And I love how the album has taken place. Gary and I are both very happy. So that's what I'm doing. And of course, to continue performing live for my audience, you know, my fans, and it's something that I still love doing. So, yeah.

Martin Lindeskog (31:58): That's great. And, uh, I have to ask you about, because I saw that Jonathan was labeled you as the queen of rave. Could you tell us about that title, how you acquire that

Rozalla (32:12): That came out in the early nineties through, because of everybody's free faith in the power of love, uh, are you ready to fly? And one morning I woke up to read the newspapers and I was being hailed as a queen of rave, you know, which I thought, well, okay, I'll take that title. And I guess the early nineties, the music was known as the rave scene, but the reason I believe they called me the queen of rave was they said I was one of the first artists to put lyrics and verses to a song rather than it being a one line of being sung over and over and over again, I actually had structured songs. So therefore the title of queen of rave came about,

Jonathan (32:54): I think anybody would ever take that title away from you either.

Rozalla (33:00): I tried Jonathan most sought them. Yeah.

Jonathan (33:02): Just like nobody had take diva doll away from me.

Rozalla (33:10): I like that. Oh, by the way, Martin.

Jonathan (33:14): Sorry. I was just going to say my, uh, my other favorite track. Uh, I didn't get a chance to answer it. It was, um, you'll, you'll never live the same way twice. That's my favorite. Yeah.

Rozalla (33:24): Oh, yes, yes. That's also from the Sony album of look no further. Yeah.

Martin Lindeskog (33:31): That's great. So listen to that. Then as a I said, I did a playlist on, on your latest song and I will then add it more songs later on because that's interesting to see how that working, especially Spotify is very good at that. I have a friend that is a musician and they had that for their band to grow audience and also to get on other lists. And also that what I liked and that's how the thing with James Knigh was that I liked something. And then he reached out to me and we became friends on Facebook and the rest is history, so to speak. So it's interesting. Back in the day you went to the record shop and they, the guy or the girl behind the, uh, store very well. They said, Oh, you're interested in that kind of music, where have you bought this song or something like that. So it was word of mouth in a way, and now it's the new way of doing it in a way. So that's, that's, that's great. Yeah. And we'll, uh, end in a bit, uh, fun. Yeah.

Jonathan (34:40): I was just going to, I was just going to say, I can remember when I was younger going into HMV, um, and they have specific standing points where you can just voice. Yeah. You could, yeah. You could pick, you could pick us a CD off of a shelf and then ask the assistant to like open it for you. You could put it on and you could listen to it to decide whether or not you wanted to buy it or not. Um, you don't have that anymore.

Martin Lindeskog (35:08): So that's how I did it. I mean, in a way I'm getting bit sad, but I am for the market also. So that's how things, when things change and that's it

Martin Lindeskog (35:20): But I remember that standing in, especially around Christmas time, standing in line to, in order to pay, because it was so many people there. And then as you said, you took certain records without the CD in it. And then you went to this booth and when else I listen to this and then they said, okay, do you want to listen to this and, the next song? Because then it was, you had maybe one song that you were interested in, but then you wanted to listen to the rest of the album and see if you want to buy the whole album, or if you want to find a single or, or something like that. So it, it's not that way anymore. But on the other hand, you could do it now with your own mixes or listings or top lists and, and recommendations that you couldn't do in the past. So it's, it's a fascinating development.

Jonathan (36:14): [inaudible] everything obviously is, has evolved for the better, but it is still nice to have retro, retro thing as well to like relive from, from the past. And as I was saying into the, into the record store and listening to the track to see whether you like, it was one thing. And then on the other hand you had, um, like stores like Woolworths and things like that who had their own charts away from HMV. And you went in specifically to buy, um, a copy where there were different mixes and things like that on a cassette and stuff. And you'd like vine, the cassette with your pencil to listen to. I mean, so I miss all that. I really do.

Martin Lindeskog (37:02): Yeah. The mix tape thing. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, good old days. So I have to ask you now as an ending, of course, if you have anything else, you have, you have to plug that for where we are, where you are in the cyberspace and interwebs, but I have to ask you, or you're drinking tea. Do you drink tea? Oh, I love tea. I love, yeah. Is it that you now, or when you are in England or is it already from, from your youth and you're coming from uh, [inaudible]. It was all already in my youth. I loved it. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Yeah. And you, Jonathan, do you drink tea?

Jonathan (37:48): Yes. I do drink tea. I like fruit teas actually as well. Um, yeah. Oh, I like that. Yeah. There's quite a lot of, um, various flavors at the moment I'm drinking. Um, like I think Blackberry tea or something like that, which is quite refreshing. Yeah.

Martin Lindeskog (38:04): That's great to hear because I have to ask because I've written a book about tea and I have a podcast with a co-host in Swedish about tea and also in the international one. And it's also, I have to know what to bring to the party when we will meet someday and listen to your great music and see you dancing. Yes. Then I will bring you perfect. Perfect breakfast tea, please. A perfect cup of tea. Yeah, I will do that. So, so please tell the listeners where we could find your on the interwebs. Yes. The listeners can find Rozalla on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. That's great. And Jonathan, do you have anything to add? Yep. Um, also the fun pages also on Twitter and Facebook as well. [inaudible] rozalla music fans. Yeah. And then may, maybe as a, as I know, it's lots of work in this, but maybe it could be some idea to find some as I said that I'm working on that myself.

Martin Lindeskog (39:12): So that's why I could say it on my so-called last page called tea party, dot media. And I want to put everything together, what I'm doing as a new media advisor, my interest in tea podcasting and so on, because that could be, that could be found on, on, uh, like when you do searches. Because I, for example, on the Google searches, where as an end, one of the bottom lists, where on the first page it was site called, uh, talk about pop music where are very now and that, that, that was listening from 2018 and they have written a bio about your Rozalla. Yeah. So if you would start your in the future as a recommendation, like with a blog or something like that, and starting writing, because you have a story, you have a career and all this storytelling about all things. If you could populate that with your content and you, of course, Jonathan will be probably a help. Oh, definitely. In fact, in fact, you just gave, give me a, you just gave me an idea and that was the right time, the right time we're in lockdown, get that biography stuff. And this is on tape now also, of course I could help you out in a way if you want, but I think it's important because it was great because it was you you, Jonathan that reached out as, again, a repeat that, uh, in, in a nice way, because you are active in, uh, on social platforms, as I said, in a, in a, in a friendly way.

Martin Lindeskog (40:46): That's how it's working then. Of course it's how people, when we are searching and that's what you, sometimes you can't control it. But if you create your great content, that's related to what you're doing, and then, then you will find, get that picture. And that's why I have a segment called ego search or ego surfing on, uh, on your name and your, and it could be good exercise to do so. Thanks again. So for your time, it was nice to have this chat and we'll, as I said, include your list and songs in the show notes. And we will, we'll talk soon again. So Martin, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Take care.

Jonathan (41:35): I love you. Bye

Speaker 5 (42:25): [inaudible].

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Episode 105 (42 minutes - direct download URL) was recorded on May 21,, 2020, by podcaster, Martin Lindeskog, with Ringr app, IK Multimedia iRig Mic Cast podcasting microphone, PreSonus HD7 professional monitoring headphones, and SnapRecorder portable recording booth. Post-production through the podcast maker, Alitu. Notes written in Ulysses app. Bumper and jingle by Jim Jonsson, JTunes Productions.

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